I do like the pants and they have some stretch to them so they fit well enough. However, although they are thicker than the base layers, the pant material itself is (porous?) . I was expecting a more dense fabric to keep out the cold. You might want to keep your undergarments a little more neutral colour so as not to have it show through. I can still wear them with a base layer or wear them under my winter jean skirt for warmth, or a long shirt to cover a little more. It's not that noticeable though in me, but if you need the pants to stretch on, it would be a lot more noticeable. I am still glad I have it for winter though.
